Friday, February 01, 2008


LOST has finally returned! On this week's show Chris and Brian dig into the season 4 premiere, the latest mobisode, and the conclusion of Find 815. This show also marks the return of "LOST in 15" and "Guess the title".



29 Comments:

At 2/01/2008 12:40 PM, Blogger JustJimmy said...

Well, looks like my Hurley prediction is dead wrong out the gate. Hmm, The Six, well I believe they are 5 now as one of them is dead(the casket). We know 3 are Jack Kate and Hurley, the other 2 are probably Claire, and Sawyer. I think Ben is in the casket, and Jack goes to see him as remorse, as he finds out that Ben was the good guy, just like the wizard of Oz. I do believe John Locke is the bad Guy, and have ever since the blank stare on his face in season one(i will find the episode name so you can watch it.). Terry O'Quin is such a bad ass actor, he conveyed the look in his eye of a man with a mission, an EVIL mission. I think this is why Locke befriended Walt, as we saw in the mobisodes, Walt is special, and maybe EVIL!!! Ben is the good Guy in the end. Sorry Brian, Locke must Die. I think this is why those who were left on the island need Hurleys help, as he saw the light, and left BLACK SMOKE LOCKE BEHIND! Ole Smokey protects Locke as a familiar cat protects a witch. Locke is not protecting the good of the group, he is building his own paradise, kinda like Brando in Apocolypse Now. They even reference Locke as COLONEL in the episode in the box factory(Walkabout), in thier war game. After I started on this path of comparison to apocolypse now, i started to see many similarities in Locke, and Colonel Kurtz.
I think Lost pulls from, Twin Peaks, Indiana Jones, Alice In Wonderland, Wizard of Oz, Giligans Island, Apocolypse Now, The Stand, and The Facts of Life(i have a theory that Kate is loosely based on the character Jo, on Facts). I kinda see a STAR WARS tie in, with Jack aking a walk into the cabin, and hearing Jacob say, "JACK, I AM YOUR FATHER". Except it will actually be Jacks Father DR sheperd. Which I agree with Brian, DR. SHEPARD IS JACOB! Take that Chris!(seriously though that did look a lot like Jacks Dad).
I figured out the Four toed statue......In some families, you have to give your little finger to pledge loyalty, Locke Takes your little toe. As did the original inhabitants of the island. This is Fact, and not open to discussion. Just accept it(kidding). Theory.... I think Brian would give his little toe to Locke.

Here is an awesome read for Twin Peaks fans for comparison http://www.henryjenkins.org/2006/08/getting_lost.html

 
At 2/02/2008 1:32 PM, Blogger MoltenPanther said...

Yes, it does look a lot like Jack's Dad. In fact: http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Cap08.jpg

I <3 Lostpedia.

 
At 2/02/2008 4:56 PM, Blogger MoltenPanther said...

My question: How did Naomi get that knife out of her back?! Or did I just miss it and she still had it in her back and had a second knife. I mean, if that's the same knife, that'd be tough to pull out being right in the middle of her back, and she's also bleeding everywhere and is nearly dead. Any thoughts?

 
At 2/02/2008 11:02 PM, Blogger MoltenPanther said...

Micro-theory: Everyone was rescued and a few of them formed a band called the Oceanic 6. It features Jack on keyboard, Kate on vocals, Hurley on drums, Sawyer on washboard, the jug, and bass guitar, Sayid on lead guitar, and Mixxmaster Locke. I've solved the mystery of Lost!

 
At 2/03/2008 1:10 AM, Blogger MoltenPanther said...

Gah, really sorry to post a 4th time in a row, but I just found something I had to add this. Hear the whispers right before Hurley found the cabin? Here's what they said, according to Lostpedia. This is the left track and the second part is the right, played simultaneously:

“"You have to believe it's me, Nikki"
"Shush"
"Did anyone say something?"
"I said nothing"
"You better not say a f**king thing or talk about Desmond"
"It's Me"


“ "I'm not going to listen to them"
"It's January 7th"
"I see somebody"
"Do you recognize him?"


Before Hurley reaches the cabin some people argue that the whispers can be heard saying "Jack...his dad is hiding"... "Jack his dad is hiding from the survivors of Oceanic...from Desmond" This is controversial.


Hmm...the "Nikki" part fits well my mega-theory.

 
At 2/03/2008 5:51 AM, Blogger randomyeo said...

This is regarding find815.

First, from an earlier stage, we learned that The Maxwell Group is a subsidiary of Widmore Industries.
Second, we know that whatever ship Naomi came from is not Penny's boat. Also, Naomi was in possession of the picture of Desmond and Penny.

Using these evidences, I have come to only one conclusion. Charles Widmore, the only other person in the world other than Penny or Desmond capable of possessing that photo, staged the fake plane in the bottom of the ocean for the purpose of ending Sam Thomas' and any other concerned party's search for Oceanic 815. (maybe also to stop Penny from finding Des, and make her think he's dead.) Though we still dont know why he's interested in the island. that my come later... thanks to the knowledge that Sam was practically forced to go to those coordinates by The Maxwell Group.

 
At 2/03/2008 6:14 AM, Blogger randomyeo said...

i totally agree that jacob is jacks dad!! mobisode 13 totally supports that. . .
DONT READ the rest of this post if you havent watch mobisode 13.

Christian: He has work to do.

Walt (To Locke): You have work to do.

Locke (To Jack): You're not supposed to do this.

now, seeing these lines, i hereby give my prediction that Jack has failed his task ('work' jack's dad said) and something in the form of Walt (black smoke?), has passed the torch to Locke. I believe that this 'work' Christian and Walt is talking about refers to freeing Jacob/Christian(which is now imprisoned)...

 
At 2/03/2008 9:50 AM, Blogger randomyeo said...

wait a sec, in this post, i re-predict my previous prediction that Jack dad is not Jacob. the first time we saw Jacob "The Man Behind the Curtain", and the 'Jacob' we saw in this episode is different. (LOL, i forgot about this..haha)

Jacob probably invited Christian into his cabin for a cup of tea or smth. The eye that Hurley saw is then Jacob. [maybe Christian has been to the island before(?)]

Also, in biblical terms, Aaron was the great-great-grandson of Jacob, which MIGHT indicate that Claire and Jack may be the great-grandchildren of Jacob and subsequently, Christain as great-grandson of Jacob. but this is just a wild guess.

 
At 2/03/2008 12:59 PM, Blogger MoltenPanther said...

Well, the first time we see Jacob, he is played by the property master for the production crew, Rob Kyker, so he might've just been a stand-in.

 
At 2/03/2008 4:12 PM, Blogger silvey said...

i propose that the eye is jacob's but jack's dad is hanging with him in the cabin. obviously jack's dad has moved around the island more so jacob gave up his seat to christian sheppard 'cause he needed the rest.

 
At 2/03/2008 7:23 PM, OpenID mitchellx said...

give me a hug chris or brian....
(wait.. no im fine now.. dont need a hug) but, but .. charlie is dead.... dead (er.. in the present. or the real life world) but,... why charlie... why did locke kill namoie... or how did he kbnow they were bad.. somebody help....

 
At 2/03/2008 9:17 PM, Blogger silvey said...

i'm not completly sure naomi is dead. kate looked at her back in a funny way and noticed the knife was gone. not sure of the significance of that.

 
At 2/03/2008 10:55 PM, Blogger MoltenPanther said...

I won't truly believe Mikhail is dead until we see him on screen, with no cutaways, one long shot, getting dismembered, burned, and eaten. And even then I wouldn't be too sure.

 
At 2/04/2008 2:58 AM, Blogger Drifty said...

I agree Naomi's final words seems very strange considering she was about to die - "tell my sister I love her" could be a warning message to the boat informing them something is wrong/the people she found are hostile/etc?

 
At 2/04/2008 8:36 PM, Blogger Lostie108 said...

OH MY GOODNESS!!!!

I was watching the episode again on my DVR (because I also have an HDTV...lol) and guess whose name was on the opening credits?

HAROLD PERRINEAU JR!!! Mr. Michael "Im gonna commit murder to get my son off this godforsaken Island" Dawson!!!!!!

could this be a revelation? I mean, his name was completely absent from the credits in season three, and I have a feeling there is something bigger than flashback references here, otherwise they would only have accredited him when a flashback-episode with him ACTUALLY IN IT AIRED!

My theory: Michael is coming back. Walt, although we've seen him (or was it him?) too. And not in a flashback or a flashforward...on the Island. They are both on the main cast list, so something is up...check for yourselves...Hurley being interrogated, right after whats his face says "want a donut?"...

 
At 2/04/2008 8:42 PM, Blogger Lostie108 said...

oops, sorry to post twice, but I had another comment!

I completely agree that Jacks father IS NOT Jacob, but that the mysterious eye belonged to the ACTUAL Jacob. Though, I still don't understand why Jacob was invisible to Locke in Season Three...I mean, "The Man Behind The Curtain" has left so many unanswered questions.

That being said, checking up on Lostpedia (oh, I heart it so) and there seems to be negotiations occuring right now:

"The Hollywood Reporter reported that these informal conversations resulted in monumental breakthroughs that could result in official negotiations to finalize a settlement soon, perhaps in the next week. The sticking points had to do with payment for rebroadcasts in "new media" such as Internet streams and downloads.

If this actually results in the WGA authorizing filmings to resume, it may mean the salvage of part of episodes 9-16 of Lost if the cast and crew can be reassembled hastily over in Hawaii. Probably all eight episodes cannot be saved at this late date, but that's speculation upon speculation for now, and also dependent on whether ABC extends its general television season this year"

Sweet...

 
At 2/05/2008 3:09 AM, Blogger MoltenPanther said...

Gah! They-who-must-not-be-named stole my title!

My last blog title was "The End of the Beginning". I posted this on February 2nd, 2008, at 6:14 PM.

But on February 3rd, They-who-must-not-be-named released their Monday edition with the same name! This proves they steal stuff from you guys (and now me!!!)

:-P

 
At 2/05/2008 7:50 AM, Blogger randomyeo said...

lostie108. . .here's my theory to your 'why Jacob is invisible to Locke?' question.

i think that only those people who believe in Jacob can see him. Locke didn't believe that Jacob was real until he heard him, therefore seeing him.

Hurley saw Jacob as he had seen someone on the chair and so he believed that there was someone/ something creepy related to the cabin. therefore he saw the eye of jacob, as he expected to see someone there.

[different theory]
Maybe Jacob only allow specific people to see him. Jacob might have also allowed hurley to see him, and the door of the cabin opened, as if to welcome him in.
Jacob might have also allowed himself to be seen by locke, after noticing he's special.

notice both these 'seeing Jacob' moments happened a while after seeing the cabin. Jacob might have been 'evaluating' them, seeing if those whom he allow to see himself (Jacob) is special.

 
At 2/05/2008 1:11 PM, Blogger Lostmommyof3 said...

I think that we're made to think that CS is actually visiting Jacob. If you recall there was a lantern on the table when Hurley was looking inside the cabin. Ben also used a lantern when visiting Jacob with Locke. Of course in that event it was broken, causing the fire, then seemingly restored as Ben hung it back up outside the door. I think that CS was visiting Jacob. If you watch TMBTC you can see there are 2 chairs in the cabin. 1 for Jacob and 1 for a visitor such as CS.

After seeing this epi and listening to the podcast I am even more certain that my most recent theory is dead on. It relates to the magic box. Christ and Brian were talking about Locke's gun that Jack shot at Locke and whether SMokie or the Island made the bullet disappear etc. I think that it most certainly was either the Island of Locke himself. No joke. You've got to read my theory regarding the Magic Box and what this metaphor actually is about. It can be found here:

http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2007/09/magic-box-by-lostmommyof3.html

 
At 2/05/2008 2:11 PM, Blogger Lost Unlocked said...

Greetings spoiler-free army!

I'm way behind on reading and responding to email/comments this week because I'm suffering from a pretty wicked cold. But today I am feeling a bit better... so I'm going to attempt to get caught up.
Can't wait to read what you guys have to say.
-Brian

 
At 2/05/2008 3:46 PM, Blogger MoltenPanther said...

This episode was the first time I'd ever turned off the TV before "Next time on Lost". I'm really excited!

And I agree with most of your Oceanic 6 ideas, except I think that, of Scott or Steve, the dead one will be the one that leaves. And instead of Zombie Paulo, Jacob goes...or maybe the BSM...or they're the same, I dunno anymore.

 
At 2/05/2008 3:49 PM, Blogger MoltenPanther said...

Oh, and JustJimmy, this doesn't really follow along with anything you've said, but Charlie called Hurley "Colonel bloody Kurtz" in "Numbers". A connection for why they could both see Jacob, maybe?

 
At 2/06/2008 6:06 PM, Blogger JustJimmy said...

I think it would be neat if the night beofre LOST we all posted our predictions for tommorrows episode. Like Chis nd Brian guess the itle, we could do a guess the episode, predict what may transpire.

 
At 2/06/2008 9:45 PM, Blogger Lost Unlocked said...

I like that idea JustJimmy...
Would you do us the honor of kicking off "Prediction Wednesdays"?
-Brian

 
At 2/07/2008 8:29 AM, Blogger JustJimmy said...

Sure, I think tonights episode will be Lockes crew reaching the houses of the others. We will see Richard at the Temple, and Jack will start the war with the people on the boat. Christian Shepard will make an appearance, and I think he is not Jacob now. But he is chillin with the Jac-meister in this episode to be.

 
At 2/07/2008 8:51 AM, Blogger randomyeo said...

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At 2/07/2008 8:52 AM, Blogger randomyeo said...

i predict almost along the same lines as justjimmy (ON-Island).

i now predict (OFF-Island) that we would learn more about the Oceanic 6 and find out that more than just six losties are off the island.

exp: {prediction} kate might not be one of the Oceanic 6 as she is still a fugitive from killing her dad and might have changed her name and stuff.

Michael (and Walt) might have escape and changed his name and stuff due to bring scared of people finding out what he did to get himself and Walt off the island.

 
At 2/07/2008 5:38 PM, Blogger Lostie108 said...

Im sticking with my prediction that Michael and Walt are going to be back on island...I just know its going to happen, but not why!

And as far as the temple goes, I think that it may be connected withe the four toed statue. I think that we should have a flashback, maybe Dharma time, to get info on the temple and its origins.

And my final prediction: tonights episode will rock! See yall here after the show.

 
At 2/07/2008 10:08 PM, Blogger JustJimmy said...

DID YOU HEAR IT!! Sawyer called Locke Colonel Kurtz! Ok my predictions about tonights show were way off, however my first post in this string feels more on than ever. Sawyer even referred to Ben as Yoda, looks like my star wars crossover is spot on as well. Wow, a polar bear in the desert buried, with a Dharma collar. Ghosthunters, and the LawnmowerMan. Wow, better than predicted. Lost is off to a running start, and I for one am stoked about this new direction. what a breath of fresh air. The buried polar bear, lends to the four toed statue, as it seems the island transcends time. Whew, my head is spining.

 

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